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stillskiing
2009-04-06, 00:33
Anyone into Formula one racing...?

stillskiing
2009-04-07, 07:40
HONDA must be kicking themselves.......all those investment; only to have some long blonde "Brit" reap in the benifit..........
Biggest MISTAKE....Ferrari getting rid of the "three misketee" the dream team of TODD,BRAWN and Schumi......The RED BARN Will NEVER regain that dominance on the Formula 1.

WIth the new body change...the F1 racing is MUCH more interesting. There are more passing, more team fighting...........

Mike
2009-04-07, 08:56
McLaren got themselves in trouble: :D

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport2/hi/motorsport/formula_one/7985669.stm

Mike
2009-06-25, 09:24
Peace agreement reached, as reported by BBC today:

An agreement has been reached between Formula 1's governing body and the teams to prevent a breakaway series.

The two parties had been engulfed in a bitter row over planned budgetary and technical changes for the 2010 season.

But it appears a resolution has now been found and, as part of the deal, Max Mosley has agreed not to stand for re-election as president of the FIA.

"There will be no split, there will be one F1 championship. We have agreed to a reduction of costs," said Mosley.

"The objective is to get back to the spending levels of the early 90s within two years."

F1 supremo Bernie Ecclestone added that he was "very happy common sense has prevailed" following a meeting of 120 members of the FIA in Paris aimed at resolving the crisis.

Ferrari chief president Luca di Montezemolo, head of the Formula One Teams Association (Fota), added: "I think the decisions we have shared this morning are important. We will have the rules of 2009, same rules for everybody.

Ahead of the meeting, Mosley had insisted that he would not step down as part of any potential agreement and might even seek re-election as head of world motor sport.

However, it appears Mosley has now agreed to move aside when his fourth term as FIA president ends in October, saying: "I will not be up for re-election, now we have peace."

Furthermore, writs that had been threatened against Ferrari and the other teams in Fota - McLaren, BMW Sauber, Renault, Toyota, Red Bull Racing, Toro Rosso and Brawn GP - are likely to be shelved.

The agreement ends two months of wrangling since Mosley announced after a World Council meeting at the end of April that a voluntary £40m budget cap would be imposed from next season - a plan that prompted a rebellion from eight teams, with Fota announcing on Thursday they were planning a rival series.

But the new agreement ends that threat, while still maintaining the "financial viability" of teams which had been targeted with the initial budgetary restrictions.

Mosley explained: "There is no budget cap because costs will come down to the levels of early 1990s in two years - it's a different way of doing the same thing. I always thought there wasn't much between us, now we've agreed there isn't."

As part of the agreement, existing teams must help new outfits - Campos, US F1 and Manor - with their engines and chassis.

stillskiing
2009-06-25, 12:05
All this battle between the FIA & FOTA is NOT about racing and Formula One. It is totally political and monetary motivated.

Basically, FOTA is not happy about the dictatorship of FIA president Mosley and the share of money which dish out by Eccostone and his Co.......FOTA claims that they have not been receiving the proper share of the money since 06.

It has nothing to do with budget cap nor the technical limitations.....it is all a chess game put forth by the Ferrari Chair and the Gang of FOTA. How, by threathen to have a break away serries, FOTA got eveything that they wish; Bernnie is happy, so he can continue to rake in the BIG BUCKS; and they got ride of the president whom nobody likes, and make way for the former team principle of FERRARI....Michelle Yaoh's Fiance...aka...Jean Todt.

And everyone goes home smiling....all except Mosely. I think he is the escape goat and victim of the war between FOTA and Bernnie. For years, FOTA is not happy with money treatment from Bernnie. So they use this little game to make the "point".

It will be very interesting to see what will happen after 2012; that is when all the agreements expire.

Mike
2009-07-09, 09:04
The row is not over yet :D

As reported in the news today:

The eight members of the Formula 1 Teams Association (Fota) walked out of a meeting with the sport's governing body, the FIA, on Wednesday.

The meeting, at Germany's Nurburgring, was held to discuss next year's rules and Fota's proposed changes to them.

But the Fota teams left when told they had not entered the 2010 championship and therefore had no voting rights on technical and sporting regulations.

A Fota statement said the row "puts the future of Formula 1 in jeopardy".

It is the latest incident in a bitter, long-running argument between Fota and the FIA over planned budgetary and technical changes which has threatened to tear the sport apart.

The eight Fota teams - Ferrari, McLaren, BMW Sauber, Renault, Toyota, Red Bull Racing, Toro Rosso and Brawn GP - insist they have entered the 2010 championship.

"It will be remembered all eight active Fota members were included on the 'accepted' entry list as endorsed by the FIA World Motor Sport Council (WMSC) and communicated by FIA press statement on 24 June," said Fota.

The association added that because it was now being claimed they had not entered, they had "requested a postponement of today's meetings".

Fota continued: "This was rejected on the grounds no new Concorde Agreement would be permitted before a unanimous approval of the 2010 regulations was achieved.

"However, it is clear to the Fota teams that the basis of the 2010 technical and sporting regulations was already established in Paris.

"As endorsed by the World Motor Sport Council and clearly stated in the FIA press statement of 24 June 'the rules for 2010 onwards will be the 2009 regulations as well as further regulations agreed prior to 29 April, 2009'.

"At no point in the Paris discussions was any requirement for unanimous agreement on regulations change expressed.

"To subsequently go against the will of the WMSC and the detail of the Paris agreement puts the future of Formula 1 in jeopardy.

"As a result of these statements, the Fota representatives at the subsequent Technical Working Group were not able to exercise their rights and therefore had no option other than to terminate their participation.

"The Fota members undertook the Paris agreement and the subsequent discussions in good faith and with a desire to engage with all new and existing teams on the future of Formula 1."

The FIA insisted in a statement of its own that it had wanted to discuss proposals for 2010.

The FIA added: "Unfortunately, no discussion was possible because Fota walked out of the meeting."

The long-running row between Fota and the FIA appeared to have been resolved in June, when an agreement was reached between F1's governing body and the Fota teams to prevent a breakaway series.

Under the terms of that deal a proposed budget cap was postponed and the teams won significant concessions on rule changes and the governance of the sport, while Max Mosley agreed not to stand for re-election as president of the FIA.

stillskiing
2009-07-09, 11:21
A EU court has rule that the "f1" is not an exclusive type of cars, and there fore, if there is a break away series, the new championship can still use the same cars.

FIA strictly forbid the new team to use other engine manufactures, ONLY Cosworth engines .....WHY?.............In fact, to get an application into F-1, the would be team has to have a signed engine contract with Cosworth, before sumiting to FIA.........SOME THING SMELLS HERE...

Race Fans.....hang on, it is going to be a roller caster ride in the world of high finance auto racing.

It is money,,,,,,, there will never be a budget cap in F-1. It is because the team get their profit from the budget which is supply by the sponsors. To have a cap on the buget is to have a limit on the teams' earning.........

So, we might be watching a new championship series next March. ........I think it is good for the sprt of F-1 racing. It is because there will be more venues. The new chap. charges less entry fee to host an race as compair to Bernie and the gang of robers. More countries will be able to host such event.

THREE CHEERS FOR THE FOTA.......:)

B2L2
2009-07-14, 03:18
F1 @ 1500 fps. Enjoy, stillskiing (http://www.hkssa.net/member.php?u=54):

http://www.autoblog.com/2009/07/12/amazing-1-500-fps-video-from-german-gp/

stillskiing
2009-07-29, 13:51
We, all race fan are awaiting for the BMW conference........

Rumor has it that Bmer is pulling out of F1 at the end of this season. It may have some truth to this; just look at the car's performance this season. Back of the grid and staying there in all these races.......

It is sad, .......but true....Hate to see a good team depart.

Massa......?

I think the Red Barn will be looking for 2 drivers for next year.....

Mike
2009-07-29, 13:57
We, all race fan are awaiting for the BMW conference........

Rumor has it that Bmer is pulling out of F1 at the end of this season. It may have some truth to this; just look at the car's performance this season. Back of the grid and staying there in all these races.......

It is sad, .......but true....Hate to see a good team depart.

BMW called an emergency press conference at their headquarters in Munich for 10am and it is believed that their exit is to be announced.

The fear is that any departure by BMW could prompt other manufacturers, specifically Toyota but perhaps Renault as well, into making similar decisions.





I think the Red Barn will be looking for 2 drivers for next year.....

Renault's Fernando Alonso is expected to move to Ferrari in 2010 in any case (even before Massa's accident).

Mike
2009-07-29, 17:23
It is now confirmed that BMW will withdraw from Formula 1 at the end of this season.

BMW, who took over Sauber in 2005, have cited "current developments in motor sport" as the reason for their pull-out.

They are the second major manufacturer to leave the sport in eight months after Honda's withdrawal in December.

stillskiing
2009-07-30, 06:54
" SCHUMI" is back...!

Starting next GP in Spain for the EU GP....

It will be very interesting......

stillskiing
2009-08-01, 00:48
Who is next to leave this "poker" table....?

Renualt ....... Toyota ........ ?

Mike
2009-08-12, 09:24
" SCHUMI" is back...!

Starting next GP in Spain for the EU GP....

It will be very interesting......

Michael Schumacher has abandoned his comeback with Ferrari because of a neck injury. (he injured his neck in a bike accident in February)

Schmacher was set to deputise for the injured Felipe Massa at the European Grand Prix in Valencia on 23 August.

"Unfortunately we did not manage to get a grip on the pain in the neck which occurred after the private F1-day in Mugello," Schumacher told his website.

Veteran Ferrari test driver Luca Badoer will now stand in for Massa.

stillskiing
2009-08-24, 01:09
Who is the next to leave the poker table?
Toyota......is ready to say "saiyonara".......Reason : costing the company too much H2O and nothing in return....

stillskiing
2009-09-03, 06:31
Well, with one of the two most demanding GP done, next weekend's Monza will be another challenge for some teams.
Can Brawn GP still manage to hang on to the manufacture Champinion's lead?
Vettle is running out of engines, so can he keep up with the pressure to chase down Brawn GP?

stillskiing
2009-09-29, 10:32
Team Toyota is ready to fold.....
The writing is on the wall. With the recent success of Timo Glock and the podium finish in Singapore, both his and Trullis' contract is UNCERTAIN.........
They will pull out of the F-1 arena and retreat back to the minor league racing ie. NASCCA, IRL....
Just to show that Toyota is NOT as big as they think they are.

Mike
2009-11-04, 20:29
Team Toyota is ready to fold.....
The writing is on the wall. With the recent success of Timo Glock and the podium finish in Singapore, both his and Trullis' contract is UNCERTAIN.........
They will pull out of the F-1 arena and retreat back to the minor league racing ie. NASCCA, IRL....
Just to show that Toyota is NOT as big as they think they are.

Just heard in the news .... Toyota is indeed pulling out of Formula 1 next season.

stillskiing
2009-11-05, 07:35
All this will show that Toyota, Honda are STILL playing 2nd strings to the E U counterpart...........

stillskiing
2009-11-07, 15:02
The French Team of Renault will be next to fall inline for the exit........

Mike
2009-12-11, 10:08
The French Team of Renault will be next to fall inline for the exit........

Deal is struck, Renault is staying for another season, at least.

The company had considered its future in F1, but sources say its team will continue under new owners with Renault keeping a minority 25% shareholding.

The team are set to be notified at their headquarters on Friday, with an official announcement likely next week.

It has also been agreed that the team will race as Renault in 2010.

The two front-runners in the battle to take over the team were Luxembourg businessman Gerard Lopez, and David Richards, the boss of the British motor racing engineering firm Prodrive and former team principal of Benetton and BAR in F1.

Lopez is considered the favourite to take over Renault under the auspices of his Genii Capital investment company.

The team's future has been in doubt since Renault held an emergency board meeting in early November to discuss whether to continue in F1.

stillskiing
2009-12-11, 11:58
My prediction...
There will be a ALL GERMAN TEAM...which consists of Mercedes(engine/team owner); Schumi(team principle &/ driver): Vettle(main dirver). It won't happen this season but 2011. When this team comes to-gether, we'll be sick of hearing "Deutschland Uber alles"....

stillskiing
2010-03-28, 00:39
Vettel's championship will be in the hands of Renault, if the engins don't fail him.
The Red Bull has the best chasis but poorly lack of a powerful and RELIABLE engine. As I have said before, Newly is the best chasis designer and a proven one.
This season will be a two horse race, the Red Barn and the Red Bull.......If the engines fails on Vettel, then the Alonso/Ferrari will be there to pick up the "dead chicken"

stillskiing
2010-06-07, 21:57
Rumor has it that the Renault engine is some 30 BHP down in comparison to the big mighty German machine........If, the Red Bull chassis has the equal horse power, can you imagine the fight with in the RB
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Mike
2010-07-26, 10:19
Some arguments to think about::argue:

http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/andrewbenson/2010/07/team_orders_rule_ties_f1_in_kn.html

stillskiing
2010-07-27, 03:53
It's not the first, and it would be the last

stillskiing
2010-09-30, 07:20
With 4? ( with Korean GP on the bubble) races to go, the Driver's Championship is getting very interesting.
Webber is leading, but can he maintain the effort. Hamilton, with two DNFs, is he still in the race, no punt intended. The dark horse of the Red Barn is charging hard; with Alonso having back to back grand slam(Pole position, fastest lap and finish first).......is it too late for the barn?
Japan GP in two weeks and it should be very interesting.....

Yogi
2010-10-12, 15:39
Any of the 4 drivers can win the title this year.

Mike
2010-10-24, 14:39
Korean Grand Prix - race is stopped (after 3 laps) due to adverse weather - heavy rain. :icon_giveup:

Vettel's engine blown on lap 48 while he was leading. The Championship is wide open. Alonso won the Korean GP and leading the Championship.

When was the last time a team had the front row in qualifying, then both did not finish?

Mike
2010-11-08, 07:26
Sebastian Vettel led Mark Webber to a Red Bull one-two in the Brazilian Grand Prix to take the world title fight to the final race (Abu Dhabi) of the season.

Ferrari's Fernando Alonso took third place to retain the championship lead from Webber and Vettel.

Red Bull clinched the constructors' championship for the first time.

Lewis Hamilton was fourth and retains a slim title chance while Jenson Button's fifth means he cannot retain his crown.

Alonso can afford to finish second in Abu Dhabi and still take the title if Webber wins, or fourth if Vettel does.

stillskiing
2010-11-11, 04:58
Basically, RB don't care who wins the driver's tittle........They got the most important trophy...the CONSTRUCTOR'S......

Mike
2010-12-04, 20:45
Reported in the BBC news today:

Formula 1 stakeholders have reached an agreement for grand prix cars to use a new type of 'green' engine from 2013.

The sport will switch from the current 2.4-litre V8s to 1.6-litre four-cylinder turbo engines with energy recovery systems and fuel restrictions.

The new rules could be confirmed by governing body the FIA on 10 December.

Mercedes and Ferrari had been reluctant to agree to the move as recently as a month ago, believing that it was an unnecessary expense at a time when F1 was trying to reduce costs.

But a spokesman for Ferrari told BBC Sport the rules had been agreed and he would be "surprised" if it was not announced by the world council.

He admitted Ferrari had concerns about the move on cost grounds but added: "An agreement is there, and when there is an agreement you work accordingly."

A high-level source involved in the talks said it was "most likely" that the FIA would announce the move on Friday.

The aim is for the new rules to improve the efficiency of F1 engines by as much as 50%.

Care has been taken to ensure the performance of cars will not be affected and total power outputs will remain at current levels - approximately 750bhp.

By adopting the regulations, F1 hopes to widen its appeal to sponsors - commercial insiders say some companies are reluctant to get involved in F1 because of its image of being wasteful with resources.

The agreement to change the regulations from the 2.4-litre normally aspirated V8s used in F1 since 2006 comes after months of protracted negotiations and it had looked as if the switch might have to be delayed until at least 2014, and perhaps until as long as 2017.

F1 commercial boss Bernie Ecclestone has been firmly opposed to the rule change. But the change has been agreed in a series of recent meetings between F1's current engine manufacturers - which also include Renault and private company Cosworth - and the final touches were put to the regulations by a steering group of F1 engineers on Thursday.

It is understood that a series of checks and balances have been written into the regulations to keep costs down and to ensure it should be impossible for one manufacturer to steal a march on the others in terms of performance.

This will primarily be done through resource restriction - such as limiting the amount of people or time that can be devoted to a project.

German car giant Volkswagen has also been heavily involved in the discussions and has privately indicated to F1 insiders that the only way it would consider entering F1 would be if the sport adopted these new rules.

However, sources say VW is giving conflicting messages about whether it will commit to an F1 engine project. If it did enter the sport, it is expected to use its Audi brand.

BBC Sport has been told the regulations will go before the F1 Commission - a group of stakeholders that agrees all rule changes - on Thursday 9 December before being rubber-stamped by the World Council the following day.

The move is a triumph for both F1 teams' organisation Fota and FIA president Jean Todt, both of whom have made increasing the future sustainability of F1 a key aim.

Leading figures in F1 hope that the adoption of the new rules will insulate the sport from charges of wastefulness at a time when supplies of fossil fuels are diminishing and there is pressure for the world to cut its production of greenhouse gases.

The aim is that by associating these energy-saving, fuel-efficient technologies with a glamorous and popular sport, they will become desirable in road cars, where their use is already increasing dramatically.

About 600bhp of the 750bhp produced by the engines will come from the four-cylinder single-turbo engine itself, with the rest being provided by energy storage and power-boost systems.

These systems - known as Kers - were first used in F1 in 2009 before being abandoned for 2010 and are being reintroduced next season.

For 2013, the power capacity of the Kers systems will be increased from 60kw to 120kw.

Fuel consumption will be restricted both by limiting fuel flow and introducing a maximum capacity for races.

The new engines will not do more than 10,000 revs per minute - current F1 engines spin at 18,000rpm.

In subsequent years, complex new turbocharging technology called compounding will be introduced to further enhance efficiency.

The regulations have been framed to encourage the pursuit of efficiency in engine design, dramatically increasing the amount of power that can be produced per litre of fuel burnt.

Mike
2010-12-11, 15:48
Reported in the BBC news today that the controversial ban on team orders has been deleted from the Formula 1 rulebook in the latest set of changes.

The adoption of moveable rear wings to aid overtaking were also confirmed in the new FIA rules for 2011 while the Kers power-boost system also returns.