查看完整版本 : 2009年十一月青黄不接去那兒玩好?
11月5~17日去這兒啊
http://expeditions.iceaxe.tv/cruises/
:D
11月5~17日去這兒啊
http://expeditions.iceaxe.tv/cruises/
:D
Jack, are you going?
Also, isn't November a bit too early for such expedition? :confused:
No, Mike, this is Summer in Antarctica, Winter would be too cold....
If I go, it will be a trip of my life time...Maybe 2010, when I am ready...:D
No, Mike, this is Summer in Antarctica, Winter would be too cold....
This is what I found on the net:
When is the best time to go?
No travelers visit Antarctica during the winter when polar ice blocks ship traffic and temperatures plunge into the negative degrees, even along the relatively warmer coasts. Most vessels offer tours from November to March.
November: The month of November (late Austral spring and early Austral summer) undoubtedly offers the most adventurous time to visit the Peninsula. This is the time to see Antarctica at its most undisturbed form. As the season goes on, the landing areas become impacted and muddy. Some operators tend to discourage November voyages as temperatures tend to be colder and polar ice is still breaking up so access to some areas may be limited. However, the cold temperatures also offer the most impressive icescapes, pristine snow and breathtaking scenery. Wildlife is not as plentiful as later in the season, but it is a good time to see the penguins mating. There are fascinating courtship displays in the penguin rookeries and travelers can see the penguins at work building their nests.
December to Early February: December and January have the most sunlight (up to 20 hours a day), penguins begin hatching, and vessels are typically fully booked many months in advance. Wildlife, especially penguin chicks, is most plentiful during this time typically.
Mid-February and March: Late summer, February and early March is the best time to spot whales, though you are taking the risk that other wildlife may already be gone out to sea. Cruises tend to be less crowded so often there is less waiting time for Zodiacs and station tours. This time of year you are also likely to have better access to areas further south as polar ice melts.
http://www.somegood.ca/Site/Blog/Entries/2008/10/24_Argentina_-_pre-Antarctica.html
someone's blog who actually went
I am sure everyone knows that even this expedition is labeled "cruise" but the skiing portion is not for the fainted harts. As the areas we are going to visit are not lift served, it is necessary to be climbed or “skined” in before you can start the down hill。
Two different kinds of skis/boots will be used, one is Alpine Touring, the other is Telemarking. Both require either different skiing skills and/or climbing skills.
I am sure everyone knows that even this expedition is labeled "cruise" but the skiing portion is not for the fainted harts. As the areas we are going to visit are not lift served, it is necessary to be climbed or “skined” in before you can start the down hill。
Two different kinds of skis/boots will be used, one is Alpine Touring, the other is Telemarking. Both require either different skiing skills and/or climbing skills.
Had a look the web, not very clear to itinery eg. expected daily ascent/decent , type of terrain/ accomodation, ratio of guide/punters skiing level needed.
In anycase, I think anyone signing up for something like this should be very sure of oneself, because you will be miles away from civilived comforts Skining hours with everything on your back, able to ski all kinds of snow on decent. and if you are not experience/fit enough You will not be enjoying.
If you never ski tour before strongly sugest trying something else.
Kasin,
You are absolutely correct.
When some one goes on a trip with Warrent Miller (not a part of, just tag along) you are into the big stuff. If you read the cruise description carefully, they say the conditions are not predicatable, so, how can they have a firm schedule on where the terrain is while the boat may not be able to birth?
I will spend this winter to prepare for myself at Squaw Valley for this once in a life time expedition. If I can take 20% of those top level terrains that Squaw offer, I am sure I will be ready for the Antarctica。
http://ski.creforum.info/jack/palisades1.jpg
http://ski.creforum.info/jack/palisades3.jpg
在山頂上最容易下的一條:
http://oldschool.tetongravity.com//usergalleries/albums/userpics/normal_p4~0.jpg
http://i160.photobucket.com/albums/t198/ATrain91us/flip.jpg
:D
jackwan
a season in resort will surely turn a keen skier into an expeet/good skier
W miller is associatd with those ski films Do he run courses for skiers? Steep/extreme skiing id very different from touring as hardly ever you willdecent on more than 30% slopes. Specials skills are also needed like use of skins crampons icepicks ropes etc which you will not learn in a ski resort
on a different note I have never been to S valley, what is it like does it get very crowded in season all the time and is it your local area (i mean the questest place youcan get tofor a bit of good skiing)
Warren Miller does extreme skiing films, wherever he goes. I have seen his movies going to Greenland, Tain-San (China) and many other places that are not lift served. His visit Antarctica certainly is going to film extreme skiing. The photos I posted above are on top of Palisades in Squaw Valley, an area that requires climbing after you get off from a lift. It has been part of WM's film many many times. No, WM does not offer any courses to teach, he is too busy making films.
Squaw Valley, with half the size of Whistaler/Blackhome is consider small in European standard, does offer many extreme skiing opportunities. In addition to the 10 lines Palisades offer, Squaw offers 150 more IB cliff jumping lines. It is the La Grave comparable in the USA. You can also take OB lessons at SV with all those BC techniques you mentioned above. We are fortunate to live only 4 hours away from this extreme skiing paridise, this year I took out a season pass with the resort, hopeing to advance my skills to the extent that I can take on Antarctica.
Nice to be so near a good resorts Had a look at web site Seems to have all the runs needed Good varieties. I am sure that by the time you worn out that season pass Youwill be more than ready Do let us know how you get on via the forum
I skiied in La Grave for a long week end during77/78 season Do think SValley is better La Grave is just one big mountain with only one cable going up Once you are on top You are on your own, no piste. There are many classic lines to get down but I only took the easiest line as far as I could Still it was a real challenge. Don't think I will go back in a hurry.
Its true that at Squaw, for every difficult run, there is a way out. Fair warnings were given way ahead with yellow cliff signs everywhere to let those who don't want to jump a chance to avoid. La Grave sounds like the Silverado chair at Squaw, its one chair up with 3/4 miles long ridge to enter. Except gate 7, you are on your own, no runs, no lines, go anywhere, do anything.
Here is the blog and video for the tram face competition:
http://unofficialsquaw.com/words/2009/03/01/official-video-nissan-tram-face-09-day-1/
nice clips but I do think these guys are crazy Not for me not this life, next life maybe.
agree...
but if you want to be in the Warren Miller's movie, you'd better win one of those competitions.
GEAR LIST
Skis/board: appropriate for ski mountaineering
Gore-tex shell jacket
Skins
Ski hat
Helmet
Sun hat
Alpine touring boots
Balaclava
Ski poles
Headlamp
Ice axe (Black Diamond Raven Ultra recommended)
Light weight base layer's
Crampons
Mid weight base layers
Harness
Gloves 4 pairs- (it's wet)
1 ti-bloc
Insulated jacket
3 locking carabineers
Binoculars
Belay device
Sunscreen
2 Prusuik's :confused:
Lip screen
1 ice screws- 16-l7mm
Thermos
2 shoulder length runners with carabineers
Water bottles
1 snow bar (also called a snow picket)
20 liter dry bag- for zodiac trips
Shovel
Probe
Transciever
3 meters 7mm Cord
20-40 Liter backpack
Rain slicker for zodiac trips
Gore-tex pants
Goggles-i 00% UV Protection
Glacier glasses
Rubber insulated knee-high boots like Baffin Trappers (optional: boots provided for loan on ship)
:eek::mad:
wow!! ever thought all these things weight how big back pack do one need for such trip
I'd say $4000 USD if you buy everything listed, new and first class. :( Some of the gears will not be in your backpack, such as harness, belay devices, crampons, skins, but they will be ON you and you will feel the weight. The guide says you do not have to buy EVERY thing listed and you do not have to ski all day. There will be different groups lead by different guides. In fact, there will be a group that is NOT going to ski at all, they will be visiting science stations etc. Its kind of missed the point to join this cruise, if you do not ski.:p
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