Injuries associated with Shaped skis & Straight skis

[Mike]

Apart from the obvious difference between shaped skis and straight skis which had been discussed in depth previously (in the old forum). Here below is a recent report:

Injuries seems to be less common with carving skis than straight skis, according to research from Austria. Scientists at the Department of Sport Science in Innsbruck University looked at the effects of modern ski equipment on injury in alpine skiers. They wanted to see whether the introduction of carving skis and related equipment has altered the overall injury rate and/or the pattern of injury location.
They looked at all injured skiers requiring evacuation or medical treatment in 70 Austrian ski areas in the winter season of 1997-98, when carving skis just started to appear on the ski market.
They then collected data from a representative sample of 5 ski areas 5 years later, when most skiers were using carving skis.
In 1997-98, there were 1.43 injuries per 1,000 skier days. Out of 17,914 injured alpine skiers, 29.5% of the injured men and 53.0% of the injured women suffered knee injuries. Five years later, the overall injury rate had decreased by 9%.

However, gender-specific percentages of knee injuries did not change. Female carving skiers not using newly adjusted bindings had a higher risk of knee injury than those with newly adjusted bindings.

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/18614888?ordinalpos=1&itool=EntrezSystem2.PEntrez.Pubmed.Pubmed_ResultsPanel.Pubmed_RVDocSum

[skier]

I believe that the shaped skis, which is skied 30 cm shorter than the straight skis, make a big difference.

The longer the ski, it is easier to 'twist' the ski around the pivot point (boot). In another word, if your ski is twisted in a fall, the torque (force) will be larger on a longer ski.

If the binding is not adjusted correctly, any ski, shaped or straight, may not release and thus causing knee injury.

[Mike]

Skier, very true.

Looking at the related articles published, there is a concensus about falling injury rates, summed up by the following quote:

"Skiing is one of the most favoured winter sports, supported by the introduction of carving skis ten years ago. There's a close correlation between the design of the carving ski and a new skiing technique. Only a small number of persons is able to carve correctly. A special fitness program is necessary to be prepared adequately to the skills of carving. As proven by the latest injury statistics, the number of injuries has been declining over the last years. Due to the new skiing technique, injury patterns have changed. The most frequently affected injured region is still the knee joint. Prevention can be done by fitness training, watching instructional ski videos, and usage of well-fitting sports equipment. A new trend is the Telemark-technique, which shows different injury patterns than carving."

[shelley]

我想問一套ski用具 , 大約幾重呢 ?

有無試過寄倉超重呀 !!

[skier]

我想問一套ski用具 , 大約幾重呢 ?

有無試過寄倉超重呀 !!

For men:

A pair of 170 CM high-end skis is about 3.8 kg

A pair of high-end bindings is about: 2 kg

A pair of high-end boots is about: 3.5 kg

So it will be a total of 9.3 kg.

For women, it could be 30% less if it is 150 cm and with 'light' bindings and boots

(plus ski bag)

[pan]

我想問一套ski用具 , 大約幾重呢 ?

有無試過寄倉超重呀 !!

Whether it will be over limit, depend on the length of your ski and how many pair of ski you want to bring (If I remember right, they only allow 1 pair of ski/board per luggage).

Here is a reference:
I put 158 cm board with binding, SB boots, helmet, snow pant, goggle, two pairs of gloves and tools&wax.
Plus, a pair of 156cm ski with binding, ski boots and a pair poles.
All in one bag with two kg over the limit(30kg). If domestic flight with 20 kg limit, I wear my snow pant and SB boots with ski boots attached on my backpack (about 3 kg over limit).

What my friend did after check-in... he put boots and binding back in his luggage before bringing to oversize luggage.

[shelley]

Thank you very much !

[HKS]

What my friend did after check-in... he put boots and binding back in his luggage before bringing to oversize luggage.

ah.......a brilliant idea

Before, 2 pairs of ski are fine, no one bother to check. I did it going to US.
Now even 1 pair of skis will easily be overweight. I had to paid LH for the overweight.

[skier]

I weighted my pair of Volkl AC30 skis with Motion bindings (this is a pair of heavy skis and bindings), plus a pair of poles in a ski bag, and it came out to be 19 lbs or 8.6 kg.

I did it by standing on a digital scale and weight my own weight first, and then carry the ski bag with skis and poles and weight again. Subracting my own body weight from this 'total' weight resulting the 19 lb (8.6 kg).

I think this is more accurate than just putting the skis on the scale (which may be too 'light' for the scale to be accurate).

[Mike]

What my friend did after check-in... he put boots and binding back in his luggage before bringing to oversize luggage.

I think you are talking about snowboard binding here, unless he has Vist Speedlock bindings on his skis.


I weighted my pair of Volkl AC30 skis with Motion bindings (this is a pair of heavy skis and bindings), plus a pair of poles in a ski bag, and it came out to be 19 lbs or 8.6 kg.

I did it by standing on a digital scale and weight my own weight first, and then carry the ski bag with skis and poles and weight again. Subracting my own body weight from this 'total' weight resulting the 19 lb (8.6 kg).

I think this is more accurate than just putting the skis on the scale (which may be too 'light' for the scale to be accurate).

I weighted mine as well (Volkl with Marker bindings), it is about 9 kg.

[pan]

I think you are talking about snowboard binding here, unless he has Vist Speedlock bindings on his skis.


If skis, just take out your ski boots during check-in. Then, put back later. Just make sure the oversize area is not beside the check-in counter.

[Mike]

Just wonder - how many skiers still own a pair of straight skis?