different ways to slow down

[carver_hk-ski]

Now it seems slowing down is more important then anything else. lets have some discussion. What I can imagine is listed below. ok, lets make your stab. :)

1. wedge all the way down. (is it a turn? i m not so sure because the skier is on both inside edge at all time)
2. make bigger z turns. that is slide all the way across the mountain till its comfortable to turn, then make a very sharp pivot to turn (it is the most commonly seen)
3. mini-hockey stop, rotate on every turn, this is probably the most commonly seem turns on moderate terrain?
4. push off all the snow( or skidding) through out the turn to slow down, then change edge for new turns. this should look rounder then the above.
5. make more turns for same vertical drop. this is higher speed turns for sure.

what else? :)

[B2L2]

Finish your turn, that what our instructor friend keep screaming to me (because I wasn't doing it right). :)

Lito made a good explanation here: http://www.breakthroughonskis.com/Pages/_ski_instruction/instruction01.html

- Brian

[Mckay]

Finish your turn, that what our instructor friend keep screaming to me (because I wasn't doing it right). :)

Lito made a good explanation here: http://www.breakthroughonskis.com/Pages/_ski_instruction/instruction01.html

- Brian

very good article

When we teach people skiing, we always try to make round turns to control the speed. Making the appropriate turn shape right for the students. It's very common way of teaching. I can't understand how carverhk didin't mention at althis way of slow us down at all. I heard he had quite a bit of private lesson before.

By the way, how is the skiing on Alberta

[carver_hk-ski]

I can't understand how carverhk didin't mention at althis way of slow us down at all. I heard he had quite a bit of private lesson before.Glad to learn that you r also a professional. Actually I though it was in my point 5, but i checked again point 5 only mean an controlled high speed short turns. how about adding a point 6 like?

6. make more deeper and smoother turns for same vertical drop.

Since you ask I can briefly introduce myself again. I skied many years as tourist, take some private lessons on every trip. around 4 years ago I learn a lot of rail turns(not racing) from ex-racer. Soon enough I relied on books and discussions to learn. More in private then public discussions. As I learn more I find myself know less and less. :)

[B2L2]

Make more turns had nothing to do with "finish the turn". :) Imagine a mogul style skier down a run, he made 50 short turns, but he never "finishes" his turn since they are all going for speed.

Now if another skier do only 20 round turns and finishes his turn well past 6 o'clock, he will have good speed control all the time.

The key is "finishing" away from the fall line for reducing speed, and "round" shape turn for balance control all the time.

[ p.s. (http://www.hkssa.net/member.php?u=214)
Mckay (http://www.hkssa.net/member.php?u=214) master, I skier Lake Louise for 2 days (no Kicking Horse :( ) and I practiced the elbow exercise which helped.]

[carver_hk-ski]

I bet u missed the word deep? in my mind it means finish the turn more. anyone got a different feeling of the word deep? :)

[Mckay]

Make more turns had nothing to do with "finish the turn". :) Imagine a mogul style skier down a run, he made 50 short turns, but he never "finishes" his turn since they are all going for speed.

Now if another skier do only 20 round turns and finishes his turn well past 6 o'clock, he will have good speed control all the time.

The key is "finishing" away from the fall line for reducing speed, and "round" shape turn for balance control all the time.

[ p.s. (http://www.hkssa.net/member.php?u=214)
Mckay (http://www.hkssa.net/member.php?u=214) master, I skier Lake Louise for 2 days (no Kicking Horse :( ) and I practiced the elbow exercise which helped.]

I praticed on last Sunday and 2 days ago too. Getting some feeling but just can't do it on the steep.
Thomas went to take the Level 3 training. He looks the best on the groomed and the top few on the bumps but when he got on the soft snow, he tense up too much and became the weakness. So ne able to relaxe is very important.

[B2L2]

I bet u missed the word deep? in my mind it means finish the turn more. anyone got a different feeling of the word deep? :)

Yes, terminology is one big disadvantage on any discussion. Deep for me doesn't mean anything here and CSIA never use deep to describe a turn. My sorry.

- Brian

[Mckay]

Glad to learn that you r also a professional. Actually I though it was in my point 5, but i checked again point 5 only mean an controlled high speed short turns. how about adding a point 6 like?

6. make more deeper and smoother turns for same vertical drop.

Since you ask I can briefly introduce myself again. I skied many years as tourist, take some private lessons on every trip. around 4 years ago I learn a lot of rail turns(not racing) from ex-racer. Soon enough I relied on books and discussions to learn. More in private then public discussions. As I learn more I find myself know less and less. :)

The problem of your skiing may be you learn from a racer and did too much rail turn at the intermediate stage. Racer does it all the time. I did my level one coach ( low level ) 10 years ago and we did the rail turn a lot. It’s just an edging excises. For normal turns, a racer still needs to flex and extend their legs to control the pressure. Rail turn picks up speed very fast and thus we only did it on gentle slope. Racer always think of accelerate, of cause in a control manner. That’s why you don’t know using turn shape to slow yourself down.

That's why you always mention your skis chattered when skiing icy slope few years ago. That's the result of overedging with no pressure control.