雪鏡一問

[tonychan]

本人有一副oakley貼面的太陽眼鏡(鏡片位全包框)
很多年前用過來滑雪, 遮光擋雪粉功能就沒問題
但當時只是滑了一個全日

如果要去幾日的滑雪團
有冇需要用到雪鏡呢?

[jimmy]

本人有一副oakley貼面的太陽眼鏡(鏡片位全包框)
很多年前用過來滑雪, 遮光擋雪粉功能就沒問題
但當時只是滑了一個全日

如果要去幾日的滑雪團
有冇需要用到雪鏡呢?

goggle 可以幫你擋風、雪，另外如碰撞時保護眼睛。 你副 oakley 如果係不碎膠之類物料，又唔會容易冼落黎，物輪上都可以。不過有心玩，投資一副好嘅 goggle 係應該！ :D

[freeskier]

冇goggle ? 要睇天氣, 天晴又唔凍乜都可以, 遇上大風, 大雪, 一定死硬. 除非你係山腳啲baby run慢慢滑啦. 如果唔係, 就一定要買, 仲要買貴嘅.
www.xanga.com/niseko

[jskier]

冇goggle ? 要睇天氣, 天晴又唔凍乜都可以, 遇上大風, 大雪, 一定死硬. 除非你係山腳啲baby run慢慢滑啦. 如果唔係, 就一定要買, 仲要買貴嘅.
www.xanga.com/niseko (http://www.xanga.com/niseko)
Any recommendation? I need to get a new one this year.:)

[tonychan]

冇goggle ? 要睇天氣, 天晴又唔凍乜都可以, 遇上大風, 大雪, 一定死硬. 除非你係山腳啲baby run慢慢滑啦. 如果唔係, 就一定要買, 仲要買貴嘅.
www.xanga.com/niseko (http://www.xanga.com/niseko)

今天在旺角看到好像是這款朱古力色, 是DOUBLE LENS的
http://gearpatrol.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2007/10/bolle.nova.jpg
有瑕痴,所以平D,不知好不好
這類款是否最平都要>$500?

8年前在MK X洋買的一副oakley sunglass, 他們竟說無賣十年了...
Oakley好似好多戶外用品店都已無再賣, 是否代理歸邊了?
唔知鼻托的膠和鏡臂的膠是否可上保養中心配番? 我個款好舊的了...
搵唔番保用證個D野會否受理?! THX

[freeskier]

Oakley is good but expensive. And like many other western brand, won't fit Asian face too well. Like my Oakley won't fit my flat nose. But if you have a tall nose and a fat wallet, I'll recommend Oakley. Otherwise the Japanese brand "swans" is good too. They have a special design for preventing moisture getting between the two lens. It is a tiny hole cover by a small piece of Gore-tex, and if moisture do get into the lens by accident(like skiing in rain). You can still use a dryer to blow it out. Or else it could take weeks or even months before the moisture can evaporate.
If you insist wearing glasses under the goggle or always sweating a lot during exercise (like GTfish) then, you might consider to buy a "Smith", they have a product that has a small fan to draw moisture out to prevent fogging up.
If you wear a helmet, then you have to look for a goggle which has a longer strap.
If you buy an expensive goggle, NEVER touch the inside lens when it is wet, use a dryer, NOT a tissue. It will ruin your lens .
If you buy a cheap one? never mind, it will fog up in a bad day anyway.
If it is a good day? who needs a goggle?

[jskier]

Oakley is good but expensive. And like many other western brand, won't fit Asian face too well. Like my Oakley won't fit my flat nose. But if you have a tall nose and a fat wallet, I'll recommend Oakley. Otherwise the Japanese brand "swans" is good too. They have a special design for preventing moisture getting between the two lens. It is a tiny hole cover by a small piece of Gore-tex, and if moisture do get into the lens by accident(like skiing in rain). You can still use a dryer to blow it out. Or else it could take weeks or even months before the moisture can evaporate.
If you insist wearing glasses under the goggle or always sweating a lot during exercise (like GTfish) then, you might consider to buy a "Smith", they have a product that has a small fan to draw moisture out to prevent fogging up.
If you wear a helmet, then you have to look for a goggle which has a longer strap.
If you buy an expensive goggle, NEVER touch the inside lens when it is wet, use a dryer, NOT a tissue. It will ruin your lens .
If you buy a cheap one? never mind, it will fog up in a bad day anyway.
If it is a good day? who needs a goggle?

What about the colour of len? I had a UV len before, but need to change in the afternoon or gloomy day. The one I am using now is orange in colour, but the soft foam worn out already.

Guess it's time to get a new one- X'mas shopping item no. 1 :p
Someone recommended yellow, good for all days and nights. Do you think so?:confused:
Cheers,

[freeskier]

Yellow is good for foggy days and night skiing only, not good for sunny days(but of course you can wear sunglasses if it is not too cold). Whats more important is that tuning the snowy world into a yellowish world isn't everybody's taste. My suggestion is to look for a lens which won't change the color temperature too much so one can enjoy the mountain in its true color.

[jskier]

Yellow is good for foggy days and night skiing only, not good for sunny days(but of course you can wear sunglasses if it is not too cold). Whats more important is that tuning the snowy world into a yellowish world isn't everybody's taste. My suggestion is to look for a lens which won't change the color temperature too much so one can enjoy the mountain in its true color.
That's the problem-yellowish snowy ground seems awful to me too. But I can't wear sunglasses as I would have running tears =_=!!! I need a pair of goggles that fit my face without letting the cold wind sneer in.

[tonychan]

$200買到副雪鏡ok抵吧? 擋風程度點都好過sunglass吧~應該唔慳得 :(

[freeskier]

$200買到副雪鏡ok抵吧? 擋風程度點都好過sunglass吧~應該唔慳得 :(

抵唔抵就見人見智啦. 因為每個人價值觀都唔同. 要求又唔同. 好似我老婆用開個Samsonite 喼咁, 佢話十年前係NY買, 因為用開個喼爛咗, 所以冇辦法, 肉痛都要買. 後來佢來香港, 我指住街邊啲旅行喼話, 你睇我地香港人幾幸福, 唔駛一百蚊就可以買到個咁鬼大個嘅旅行喼, 大件夾低食. 即刻買咗個用. 點知用咗兩次, 條拉鍊就嚗咗喇. 個轆重鬆鬆地潻. 而我老婆個Samsonite已經用咗十年, 睇個樣, 應該重可以用多十年, 計落真係唔知邊個喼低啲. 唔係話平嘢一定冇好, 只不個搵到又平又正嘅嘢機會好細. 要睇運氣. 咁我只好祝你好運啦.

[Mike]

8年前在MK X洋買的一副oakley sunglass, 他們竟說無賣十年了...
Oakley好似好多戶外用品店都已無再賣, 是否代理歸邊了?

For your information, the agent for Oakley in Hong Kong is Frontside Ltd, they are at Camel Paint Building in Kwun Tong.
There is also a small showroom and retail outlet (selling bags, tee shirts, goggles, replacement lens, sun glasses, etc.) in their office. They will order for you any product you see in Oakley's website if they do not have in stock (I have tried). However, they will not deliver, you have to collect from their office.


What about the colour of len? I had a UV len before, but need to change in the afternoon or gloomy day. The one I am using now is orange in colour, but the soft foam worn out already.



Different lens allows different level of light transmission, this is very important depending on the light intensity of the day. Take Oakley as an example:
Iridium Lens : Allows 16% light transmission while blocking 100% of UV rays
VR28 lens tint : Allows 28% light transmission while blocking 100% of UV rays
Persimmon lens : Allows 61% light transmission while blocking 100% of UV rays
Hi Intensity lens: Allows 81% light transmission while blocking 100% of UV rays
Clear Lens : Provides 100% ultra-violet protection

Personally, on a good sunny day, I wear sun-glasses instead of goggle, but I always carry a pair of goggle with me.
My pair of goggle has clear lens allowing me to have good visibility even when the light is flat.

[jskier]

Mike, Freeskier.... 各位師兄，師姊：

May I know which brand and model of goggles you are using. Just want to have reference.

Thanks a lot.:)

[jimmy]

Mike, Freeskier.... 各位師兄，師姊：

May I know which brand and model of goggles you are using. Just want to have reference.

Thanks a lot.:)

I have one ANON for night and cloudy, one Spy for sunny day. :D

[Ryann]

I have one SPY for sunny day, one Electric for all day and Von Zipper for all day also.
My goggles for fashion only:p, not too care the weather condition:D

[B2L2]

I have two Smith Turbo fan (one Prodigy and one Phenom), one Oakley, one cheapo with clear lens (for light skiing), and another cheapo in the bag for backup.

If you're living @ US, Tramdock is currently selling Oakley 0-Frame at US$16. Although it is single len, I doubt you could get it any lower.

[Mike]

Mike, Freeskier.... 各位師兄，師姊：

May I know which brand and model of goggles you are using. Just want to have reference.

Thanks a lot.:)

I have a pair of Oakley O Frame with clear lens for snowy days and a pair of Oakley Wisdom with HI Persimmon lens as spare

[Tom]

Any big difference in iridium or persimmon lens?

[Mike]

Any big difference in iridium or persimmon lens?

Yes. Please refer to posting #12 on page 1 of this thread.

[fredkao]

Dear everybody,

How can I prevent fogging up of my glasses under the Goggle ?

My visibility dropped to nearly zero when I ski in Tomamu during X'mas.

Whether the Goggle with a "fan" inside really help ? Where can I buy it and how much does it cost ?

[jskier]

Dear everybody,

How can I prevent fogging up of my glasses under the Goggle ?

My visibility dropped to nearly zero when I ski in Tomamu during X'mas.

Whether the Goggle with a "fan" inside really help ? Where can I buy it and how much does it cost ?
Yes, the goggle with a "fan" really works. My hubby and sons all need to wear eyes glasses and they found that kind of goggles help to prevent fogging up of mist inside the len. We bought it in ICI Sapporo.:)

[Mike]

Dear everybody,

How can I prevent fogging up of my glasses under the Goggle ?

Whether the Goggle with a "fan" inside really help ? Where can I buy it and how much does it cost ?

Almost all the brands have no-fog coating on the inside of the inner lens, which demands special care - don't touch it when wet/fogged, or the coating will scratch. That coating will also absorb particulates over time and slowly develop an "orange peel" surface that can distort vision. You should not wipe or touch the coating when wet – shake or blow the water off.
• Put them on indoor, don't take them off until you're finished skiing.
• If you go inside for lunch, shake as much of the snow off the frame as possible.
• If you fall and pack the inside of your goggles with snow, shake them dry on sight, put them on and wait. DON'T WIPE THEM!!!

Accrording to Mac Ng the goggles with internal fan works very well. But the downside is that you need to change battery everyday. It needs maintenance and also xpensive. Cost about HK$1,500. Moreover, it will only last for 2 years as the mechanical parts will wear out slowly.

http://220.232.208.148:8080/viewtopic.php?t=3237&sid=71190752dc4ac0da85c44661abb5e0c3

[fredkao]

Mike & jskier,

Thank you very much for your advise

The problem is not about the Goggle because I had already brought a new one immediately and it didn't fog up.

The problem is the glasses/spectacle which totally fogged up.

However, there are no anti-fog spectacle/glasses available

I really don't want to wear contact lens :(

[jskier]

Mike & jskier,

Thank you very much for your advise

The problem is not about the Goggle because I had already brought a new one immediately and it didn't fog up.

The problem is the glasses/spectacle which totally fogged up.

However, there are no anti-fog spectacle/glasses available

I really don't want to wear contact lens :(
That's the function of the fan, it can keep the lens of your eye glasses clear, not the goggles.

[jskier]

[Accrording to Mac Ng the goggles with internal fan works very well. But the downside is that you need to change battery everyday. It needs maintenance and also xpensive. Cost about HK$1,500. Moreover, it will only last for 2 years as the mechanical parts will wear out slowly.

http://220.232.208.148:8080/viewtopic.php?t=3237&sid=71190752dc4ac0da85c44661abb5e0c3[/quote]

Well, I think the battery can last for a longer time if you put it on "small" fan or just turn it on when you needed.

[Derek]

Almost all the brands have no-fog coating on the inside of the inner lens, which demands special care - don't touch it when wet/fogged, or the coating will scratch. That coating will also absorb particulates over time and slowly develop an "orange peel" surface that can distort vision. You should not wipe or touch the coating when wet – shake or blow the water off.
• Put them on indoor, don't take them off until you're finished skiing.
• If you go inside for lunch, shake as much of the snow off the frame as possible.
• If you fall and pack the inside of your goggles with snow, shake them dry on sight, put them on and wait. DON'T WIPE THEM!!!

Accrording to Mac Ng the goggles with internal fan works very well. But the downside is that you need to change battery everyday. It needs maintenance and also xpensive. Cost about HK$1,500. Moreover, it will only last for 2 years as the mechanical parts will wear out slowly.

http://220.232.208.148:8080/viewtopic.php?t=3237&sid=71190752dc4ac0da85c44661abb5e0c3

If one is fed up with taking great care of the coating of the inner lens, one may give the Zeal SPX or PPX or SPP goggles a try. The Anti Fog is permanately infused to the inner lens. Will not rub off like others. You may use a moist cloth to gently clean the inner lens. The anti fog effect is also good (actually the model I try never fogs)

http://www.zealoptics.com/technology/goggle-tech.php

[B2L2]

[Accrording to Mac Ng the goggles with internal fan works very well. But the downside is that you need to change battery everyday. It needs maintenance and also xpensive. Cost about HK$1,500. Moreover, it will only last for 2 years as the mechanical parts will wear out slowly.

http://220.232.208.148:8080/viewtopic.php?t=3237&sid=71190752dc4ac0da85c44661abb5e0c3

Well, I think the battery can last for a longer time if you put it on "small" fan or just turn it on when you needed.[/quote]

The Smith Turbo I had, the battery will last for at least 7 ski days (10-4 using high fan most of the time). Plus it takes 3 AAA only. Carry another pack in your pocket, and there is no charging at all.

Mechanical parts wear out? My first pair, I had it for 2 years already (30 some days) and it is still strong. The battery compartment has a bad connection and I fixed that myself.

My first one cost over $100 CND. My 2nd pair Phenom Turbo, it got it on-sale and it is only $6x.xx CND.

[Erickusan]

Is google with 'fan' available in Hong Kong? Or, is it available at 茶之水as I am going there next week.

Is it bulky?

[jskier]

Is google with 'fan' available in Hong Kong? Or, is it available at 茶之水as I am going there next week.

Is it bulky?

Never found in Hong Kong, not bulky at all.

[fredkao]

B2L2,
Thanks very much for your advice. I will go to Whilster during Chinese New Year. Do you know whether Smith Turbo is available for sale in Whistler? :o

[B2L2]

Not bulky and not heavy. I hardly notice any different. People usually notice the battery box first which is mounted on the strip. Check out pictures here: http://www.smithoptics.com/Turbo-Fan-Series_Category_10.html

Fredkao, you could buy them at Whistler. Many shops should have them. Once, I helped GTFish to buy one during summer time where only one shop has it (bike shop, haha). I know SnowCover (Whistler village) has it instock usually (but SnowCover never goes onsale until season ends, in fact it is hard to find discount item at the middle of a season).

[Ripper]

Is google with 'fan' available in Hong Kong? Or, is it available at 茶之水as I am going there next week.

Is it bulky?

Yes, I found similar products at the sports shops at 御茶ノ水 last summer. Can't remember the brand name.

Of course heavier than conventional goggles. You may try to see whether they suit your needs.

[fredkao]

Dear B2L2

Thank you for your information :)

[carver_hk-ski]

如果要去幾日的滑雪團
有冇需要用到雪鏡呢?I heard people could get snow-blind for not protecting their eyes from UV reflected from the snow around. Be very cautious. :)

[GTFish]

Is google with 'fan' available in Hong Kong? Or, is it available at 茶之水as I am going there next week.

Is it bulky?
No, yes, no. The new Smith Phenom with fan is very good.

[Mike]

I heard people could get snow-blind for not protecting their eyes from UV reflected from the snow around. Be very cautious. :)

Yes ! Happened to me 28 years ago. :D But I recovered :)

[Erickusan]

No, yes, no. The new Smith Phenom with fan is very good.

Where can I buy it in Hong Kong?

[GTFish]

Where can I buy it in Hong Kong?Don't think you can get it in HK. I got mine at a pro-deal sale at Whistler. It is an improved version of the Turbo-fan, better looking, more robust and smoother operation.

[Erickusan]

Don't think you can get it in HK. I got mine at a pro-deal sale at Whistler. It is an improved version of the Turbo-fan, better looking, more robust and smoother operation.

Brought one turbo fan goggle at 御茶ノ水, fit for glasses as well, not heavy at all. Hope it works well for my ski trip next week.

[Mike]

We talked a lot about different colour of lens, cleaning of lens, turbo fan to prevent fogging up in this thread, what about polarized lens?
Is polarized lens a good idea for skiing?

As I understand, a polarized lens don't reduce contrast except in the sense that it takes out a lot of glare. As far as skiing concern, polarized lens is not as good as non-polarized lens, the reason is that polarized lenses cut the reflected light that is polarized in certain orientation and the lens is optimized to cut glare from water and also enhance the color of the sky. Unfortunately snow crystals all orientated randomly, so you don't get as much glare reduction as you would from, say, water. So polarized skiing goggles only enhance your view (i.e. sky, lake surface, etc.) they do nothing to enhance your view of the snow that you are skiing on.

Also polarized lens is absolutely useless in poor light or heavily shaded areas. A much tougher situation is flat light, trying to distinguish the subtle changes in terrain at high speed - for that, you want a lens that will maximize light transmission and enhance contrast through tinting.

Any comment or experience with polarized lens is welcome.