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舊 2011-03-11, 05:00   #1
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Interski 2011 St. Anton

Every 4 years the Inteski is held, and this year it is in St. Anton, Austria.

Every country presents their 'own' theory, method, and techniques.



Austrian Team:


Canada:


Freestyle Show USA


There are many others on YouTube.
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舊 2011-03-11, 05:37   #2
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Opening Show - from the old long long wooden skis and technique to the modern:

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舊 2011-03-11, 10:40   #3
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Skier,

The poster of the last video is the same Kawasaki (from Whistler) who visited this board before. So envy that he could be there. :)

- Brian
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舊 2011-03-11, 11:11   #4
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Skier,

The poster of the last video is the same Kawasaki (from Whistler) who visited this board before. So envy that he could be there. :)

- Brian
The poster of the last video is by 'yaskawasaki' and I think that is him.
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http://www.interski.org/Interski.10+M52087573ab0.0.html
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Every 4 years the Inteski is held, and this year it is in St. Anton, Austria.

Every country presents their 'own' theory, method, and techniques.


There are many others on YouTube.
Some nice skiing to most people, except Harald Harb.
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舊 2011-05-17, 19:07   #7
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Opinion on various "Team":

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舊 2011-06-03, 09:08   #8
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Here is the latest report (June 02, 2011) by the Canadian Demo team:

Warren Jobbitt:

Other than Canada, I saw some amazing skiers from Switzerland, Austria, Japan, France and Korea. My impression was the Swiss had skiers that come from a racing background and what they could do with their skis was far superior to that of the other countries. However, they struggled to demonstrate a technique that could be copied by basic skiers. The French seemed to be a bit more disciplined than 2007 and in contrast the Austrians seemed to be a bit more free or loose in their skiing. The Japanese are always great skiers. Their technique is quite different, but they still ski well. The Korean’s play with their skiing and seem to be open to experimentation.

I believe the Swedes have a great teaching approach. It is very similar to ours where they are student-centered. The Japanese are trying to find a technique that is easy to learn and also easy on the body. Trying not to twist in the joints and create forces that can injure an aging skiing demographic is one of their main goals.

Russ Wood:

As far as a standard goes no one really to be honest, maybe France, but so would we if we chose our team by setting a SL course and taking the fastest 10 people including all our WC skiers – I think that many countries had individual great skiers and the better the skiers are the more similar they look. On a bigger picture I think Japan stands out as they have changed their technique almost 100% because of the aging demographic, not sure I agree with everything they are doing but it stands out.

Maggie Graham:

Somewhat biased as I did a lot of research on this country…
From an organizational and a methodology, the Interski Deutschland (Germany) have done a great job of keeping their key technical skiing elements simple and present them in a way that is coherent and organized. I like their emphasis on the learning environment and the use of tactics such as terrain throughout the skier progression. Also, the idea of using a teaching/training approach that is holistic is really appealing as they create life-long skiers with the skiing and decision making skills to deal with a variety of situations.
After watching the technical comparison (great idea by the way), I am really impressed with the Swiss skiers, performance skiing, using the big joint moving inside the arc. I am interested to see the intermediate parallel runs as the French, the Swiss skied quite differently at lower speeds, with demonstrations that did not resemble the same mechanics at higher speeds and would be difficult for the general public to emulate.
Canada has a good mix of all the right ingredients from the teaching approach to the skiing. I think that the information and reports from the other countries will enable us to refine our existing methods, simplify as required as we move forward as an organization.

Emerson Brooks:

Teaching: I attended Norway, Korea, and Finland for the on snow sessions. I was impressed with Finland because they based everything on the quality of learning. Their approach was similar to ours and they had great results with the group. They were able to keep technical talk simple and allowed us to ski. The motivated and kept the group engaged. This was not the case with the other sessions I attended.
Skiing: I skied with the France on an ENSA exchange a few years back and still find them to be simple and effective in regards to generating a performing ski. The Swiss and Koreans also had great technical demonstrations. By enlarge I felt these countries where able to utilize the rotational axis to get some impressive ski performance results. The Koreans used their traditional Tae -Kown –Do background and used this as a means to stack and move through the arc where as the French and Swiss would use tork (separation) as a means to move through the arc. The timing of separation and amount was different between the French and Swiss. The French seemed to use less than the Swiss and the timing with the release of the ski was different.

Casey Bouius:

There are a few here, and I didn’t get a chance to see everyone or fully understand every approach due to language but here are my thoughts. The Swiss over all were very impressive. Their demos on the show night were awesome. Fast, precise and technically very strong, they showed big air from almost every member in the park session. Even watching their free skiing with lots of performance and laying it over. There were differences in team mates; some very visibly better then others. Mind you they had quite a few world cup decedents on their team. The same results with the French. At the teaching I think that Sweden had a great system, which incorporated a lot of the same stuff we do, they are still working on it to get to a final product. As I had mentioned before the Swiss had neat integration to create a complete skier. This incorporated a wide range of skills in different terrain and approaches. Over all I would say that the Swiss stood out the most when you take in skiing and teaching approaches combined.

Ollie Nagy:

1. There are some interesting ideas out there! Some are more intuitive and some make more sense than others. It was nice to listen to all the approaches and now come back to Canada and experiment with it. There are some interesting approaches/theories that we could benefit from.

2. San Marino girls with their sexy finish and the Slovenian team with the James Bond theme.

3. Austrian’s choreography – just due to the sheer volume of people they had on their team they could demonstrate very cool formations on the demo slope.

4. Swiss team jumping in sinc (on the big jump!) – that was impressive.
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舊 2011-06-03, 17:08   #9
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So, this is the Swiss in action:



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舊 2011-06-05, 14:25   #10
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1. Note the comments on the Japanese:

The Japanese are always great skiers. Their technique is quite different, but they still ski well

On a bigger picture I think Japan stands out as they have changed their technique almost 100% because of the aging demographic, not sure I agree with everything they are doing but it stands out.


2. Note the comments on the Koreans:

The Koreans used their traditional Tae -Kown –Do background and used this as a means to stack and move through the arc where as the French and Swiss would use tork (separation) as a means to move through the arc.

Anyone can analyse what was said above and explain? Freeskier ?
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舊 2011-06-05, 14:53   #11
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1. Note the comments on the Japanese:

The Japanese are always great skiers. Their technique is quite different, but they still ski well

On a bigger picture I think Japan stands out as they have changed their technique almost 100% because of the aging demographic, not sure I agree with everything they are doing but it stands out.


2. Note the comments on the Koreans:

The Koreans used their traditional Tae -Kown –Do background and used this as a means to stack and move through the arc where as the French and Swiss would use tork (separation) as a means to move through the arc.

Anyone can analyse what was said above and explain? Freeskier ?


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舊 2011-06-14, 10:37   #12
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1. Note the comments on the Japanese:

The Japanese are always great skiers. Their technique is quite different, but they still ski well

On a bigger picture I think Japan stands out as they have changed their technique almost 100% because of the aging demographic, not sure I agree with everything they are doing but it stands out.


2. Note the comments on the Koreans:

The Koreans used their traditional Tae -Kown –Do background and used this as a means to stack and move through the arc where as the French and Swiss would use tork (separation) as a means to move through the arc.

Anyone can analyse what was said above and explain? Freeskier ?

No one has come up with the analysis/ explanations yet.

Freeskier ?
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舊 2011-07-04, 12:21   #13
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要我comment嗎? 恐怕沒有這個資格. 即管吹吹水吧.

1. 其實不完全關aging demographic 的事. 日本人喜歡極端, 喜歡完美. 有時是做過了頭.

大家都知道高速滑行時要多點edge, 一來可以bend 多一點ski, 二來可以咬緊一點, 防止banking. 問題就是, 怎樣做多一點edge? 一般是靠angulation, 滑快一點嗎, 那加點inclination吧. 現在日本的高階滑雪一般都放棄angulation, 而單靠inclination. 大幅度的 inclination其實是比較難掌握的. 那為什麼要捨易取難呢? 據我了解, 原因有二. 第一, angulation確實對關節不好. 彎起膝蓋, 再往內屈, 平常還好, 要是加上高速而產生的壓力, 受到的傷害更大, 所以索性不要. 第二, angulation會吸去部分壓力(動能), 既然要滑得快, 那當然不行啦. 這個racer們最清楚. 撐直一些, 多保留一些壓力是高速滑行的關鍵. 其實我覺得還有第三個原因 - 片得低啲, 會型啲. 不過這是打死也不會認的.

2. Tae -Kown –Do? 我們也有 Tai chi skiing 啦. 加點東方元素, 唬唬洋人, 不要太認真. 其實很多運動都有關連, 反正離不開人類的身體結構. 要用一些共通點來解釋某些動作是可以的. 但不要牢牽扯太深. 變成莫名其妙, 如我們的tai chi skiing.

其實日本人也有, 說是(samarai walk). 據說古代武士的走路姿勢是右手右腳, 左手左腳, 跟我們一般的右手左腳, 左手右腳. 大不相同. 我沒有看過, 反而相撲手訓練時是有這樣的動作的. 日本人用來解釋他們的滑雪方法. 即是外手跟外ski是一致向前推的. 跆拳道我沒有玩過. 不過看他們有很多大幅度的spin kick. 都是上半身先旋轉, 帶動下半身(同一旋轉方向)踢出去的. 這和他們現在的滑法倒也吻合. 就是歐美古典滑雪方式所不喜歡的rotation滑法啦.
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.....
2. Tae -Kown –Do? 我們也有 Tai chi skiing 啦. 加點東方元素, 唬唬洋人, 不要太認真. 其實很多運動都有關連, 反正離不開人類的身體結構. 要用一些共通點來解釋某些動作是可以的. 但不要牢牽扯太深. 變成莫名其妙, 如我們的tai chi skiing. ....
"tai chi skiing" 如果你問我, 他已走火入魔, 有些胡說八道.
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Taichi ski? Ho Ho Ho...

He is kicked out from hkski, twski and epic... But he is live and well here:

http://www.goski.com.tw/

Where ppl still listen to him.....
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