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舊 2010-03-16, 11:26   #31
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This is PMTS bump skiing, notice that there are minimal absorptions required by the knee and it is achievable in anyone's life time. :)
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carver
This is more difficult than some of the previous ones shown.

Although HH says that it is useless to extend, yet you can see there is plenty of absorption and extending.

PMTS is all about carving and that means speed.
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舊 2010-03-16, 11:33   #32
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This is more difficult than some of the previous ones shown.

Although HH says that it is useless to extend, yet you can see there is plenty of absorption and extending.

PMTS is all about carving and that means speed.
I m sorry to say that PMTS is not all about carving but about using the sidecut and rebound. Carving on comes naturally when you get PMTS. In the video there are plenty of absorption , but that's not landing. absorption takes off the impact off landing. Notice the 'vertical drop' on every landing, its very minute. It takes some skill to do that, of course. But you have a systematic course material to follow for anyone. :)

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舊 2010-03-16, 11:55   #33
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I m sorry to say that PMTS is not all about carving but about using the sidecut and rebound. Carving on comes naturally when you get PMTS. In the video there are plenty of absorption , but that's not landing. absorption takes off the impact off landing. Notice the 'vertical drop' on every landing, its very minute. It takes some skill to do that, of course. But you have a systematic course material to follow for anyone. :)


Good luck on your endeavour in skiing the bumps using PMTS
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舊 2010-03-16, 12:07   #34
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i m happy to show how my friend, an intermediate pmts skier, skiing the super course (1st vid) and the mogul below the gondula in hirafu. I can tell the skiing is ugly and slow but its good enough for me as I want to save my knee as a mere mortal. I was told there were not that much knee impact or landings even with that big enough moguls. so what else do you want?



sorry for the persistency. i just want to tell the truth that there is a way to ski mogul easily. :)

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舊 2010-03-16, 13:02   #35
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exactly! I was told flexion and extension is the key to dynamic skiing. However the point I like to stress is that better technique probably required less or even no knee drive or knee absorption(not knee flexion, different thing). The fact is that there are some soft tissues between the tibia and femur, whenever someone land or twist his femur against tibia while loaded there are some grinding off happening that will grind off a little bit of soft tissue on every turn or every landing. If that happen long enough the soft tissues will be worn out before we don't need walking. And there are no signs of wearing before too late. :)

over my last trip I played mogul for 2 days and decided its not my cup of tea for this single reason. After all able to through moguls is sufficient to enjoy all mountain skiing for me. Of course this is very personal favour.
May be have a look what he said

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舊 2010-03-16, 13:12   #36
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Good luck on your endeavour in skiing the bumps using PMTS
I don't think he can ski the way as herald harb.

Herald Harb's skiing style is not much different from a CSIA level 4. Even his skiing suit looks like the CSIA former national ski suit.
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舊 2010-03-16, 14:06   #37
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I don't think he can ski the way as herald harb. .
If you learn logic before I m sure you understand this statement is a always true statement provided that 'he' here means a non-professional student. :) The same way if I say you could never run faster then bode miller if I knew that you were not a WC skier. In case you are I won't say that, of course. But first I don't think this kind of statement make any sense apart from just telling people my skiing is bad, which I admit of course, but sufficient for recreational all mountain skiing, what else do you need? :)

I try to be very objective. back to the subject. I just wanted to show a non-professional, non-athelete intermediate pmts student skiing the bump with manageable speed and ease. If anyone think this is not true please say so. Or for the purpose of discussion why not put up video of non-professional, non-athelete intermediate 'other schools' student skiing the same bump and compare which one is easier for the knee?

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此篇文章於 2010-03-16 14:24 被 carver_hk-ski 編輯。.
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舊 2010-03-16, 14:12   #38
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I still think John Clendenin's Aspen Method is the best for us:

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舊 2010-03-16, 14:22   #39
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I like the fact that there are not that much landing in his skiing. I m not sure how difficult is to learn his way though. :)

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舊 2010-03-16, 14:32   #40
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for those looking for excitement and want to ski like a champion here is some japanese skiing the hirafu bumps.

enjoy!

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舊 2010-03-16, 15:31   #41
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When I watch people skiing on the slope, less than 10% is able to flex and extend their joints when skiing on the groom. That's why most people find bump skiing so difficult and try to aviod them because they don't know how to keep the pressure smoothly underneath them.
One thing you don't understand. There are people out there who think they don't need the flexion or extension when skiing groom, like they don't need poles or their hands don't need to be in the front, cos they can ski without falling without doing those. Some think flexion or extension is not stylish. They all have their own reasons. When you tell them what they should do, their reply is they enjoy it their way and they don't need to be professional. Well, that's true. It's their ski holiday.

So the only thing we can say is "Enjoy your skiing!"
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舊 2010-03-16, 21:35   #42
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I still think John Clendenin's Aspen Method is the best for us:

This method is just using basic parellel to ski bumps, more like the introduction to bumps. The bumps is a bit big though.
There is not much impact because the speed is quite slow. It is a good way to learn to ski bumps.
You can also see the student is trying to duplicate the instructor.
Not like some non-professional student always saying using PMTS but just skiing his own way with nothing really similiar.
If you are ont the slope, you'll see CSIA ski the CSIA way, raser ski the racing style/ Stronger Japanes skier ski the Japanses tecnical skiing way.
But if PMTS skier ski can't ski the style yet , better not to mention the term.
Like you John, your skiing look like a CSIA instructor.
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舊 2010-03-16, 22:30   #43
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This method is just using basic parellel to ski bumps, more like the introduction to bumps. The bumps is a bit big though.
There is not much impact because the speed is quite slow. It is a good way to learn to ski bumps.
You can also see the student is trying to duplicate the instructor.

The Aspen Method may look like basic parallel skiing, but it is not.

The reason they can go so slow is their using the uphill ski, uphill edge to 'skid' and 'scrub' the speed.

Before the fall-line they are balanced and dominantly skiing on the uphill ski, uphill edge; and right after the fall-line they are again balanced on the new uphill ski, uphill edge very early into the turn -- not easy.
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舊 2010-03-16, 22:39   #44
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I still think John Clendenin's Aspen Method is the best for us:
Agree :)
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舊 2010-03-16, 22:42   #45
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The Aspen Method may look like basic parallel skiing, but it is not.

The reason they can go so slow is their using the uphill ski, uphill edge to 'scrub' the speed.

Before the fall-line they are already balanced on the uphill ski, uphill edge and right after the fall-line they are again balanced on new uphill ski, uphill edge very early into the turn -- not easy.
to ski like the guy is not easy but ski like the student is not too hard. You just need to ski with me once and I can show you on Whistler, I can't do it in the bumps in Japan.
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