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舊 2011-09-20, 21:34   #31
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does anybody know the main different between CSIA vs CSCF???

some said
"The main difference between the CSIA philosophy and CSCF is centered around speed.
The CSIA technique is designed to maintain/control speed, where the CSCF technique is designed to generate speed.

The main difference is in phase 2 & 3 of the turn. In a CSIA turn you would be flexing down to absorb the energy created by bending the ski, in a CSCF turn you stay strong and move more inside to keep that energy stored and release it at the completion of the turn."

any other opinion????
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I presume your CSCF stands for Canadian Ski Coaches Federation.

CSIA is Canadian Ski Instructors' Alliance.

So what is the difference between coaching and instructing? I guess coaches are helping ski racers to ski faster, improve and succeed, while instructors are helping recreational skiers to look better on tougher terrain.
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舊 2011-10-06, 18:55   #33
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I do not even like the skiing style of this BASI Level 4 demonstrator in short turns:

http://www.youtube.com/user/Official.../3/KQajwvQLOXM
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Thanks for pointing out my typo.

This Level 4 skier looks equally bad (comparing with Berger) to my untrained/non-qualified eyes. Please kindly start a new thread to discuss who has better (or worse) skiing style than Berger if you like.
I believe the 2 skiers at the beginning of the video are candidates. But at 0.31, this guy is good.
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舊 2011-10-13, 07:27   #35
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In a recent ISIA Technical Meeting held in Budapest, snow-sports safety and off-piste in particular was discussed.

It is very clear that IASI/BASI off piste modules are one of the most comprehensive within ISIA member nations. Austria and France were not present. Germany felt it is driffting too close to the relm of a guide.

Germany and Slovenia are proposing a "free ride" instructor module with less touring orientated training. The proposals look good. It is felt that ski instructors should only ski off piste within a resort, start at a lift, end at a lift and no rope training etc.

The IASI (and BASI) level 3 ISIA off piste course ticks all the boxes and is stronger that most of the nations at the meeting.

Some nations are quite weak in the training, and some don't feel it is relevant to their association and members as off piste skiing in forbidden in some nations (without a mountain guide).

Germany would like to see focus on avalanche transceiver recovery competence higher and have some proposals.
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舊 2011-11-08, 17:15   #36
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ISIA have clarified that their tests will be posted in the future in the ISIA website. ISIA tests are organised by ISIA member organisations in line with the rules.

BASI Level 3 doesn't require any type of speed test, once you pass all modules you get the ISIA "stamp".... the ISIA test is for top certificates in the ISIA pyramid which is the "card".
BASI Level 4 exceeds the requirement for the ISIA card so currently these are issued automatically to all BASI Level 4 instructors.

IASI currently don't issue the ISIA card (but they do issue the stamp). IASI are currently going through the process of being verified to issue the card very soon.

Other nations leave the exit to Euro pro or ISIA card pro open to the instructor based on where they want to work. For example you do all the top qualification modules, then decide if you want to take Euro test or ISIA test. It is clear that the Austrians and the French still insist on the Eurotest.
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Austrian Anwaerter (Anwärter) Sk Instructor Course

Anwärter Sk Instructor Course - LEVEL 1

Organisation - The Salzburgerland Berufsschilerher & Snowboardlehrer Verband http://www.sbssv.at/en/instruction/t
The aim is to be able to teach for any Austrian Ski School (plus others that accept this qualification), from beginners up to unlinked carving turns on piste.

Pre-requirements -
Over 16 years of age and able to carve both short and long turns.
Basic German language
For non-Austrians, proof of future emplyment at a ski school within the county you are being instructed by.

DAY 1
Afternoon start. Split into groups of approximately 10 people with one instructor per group.
Evening lecture on Children's ski school. The lecture in 100% German is directed by one instructor in an informal style.

DAY 2
This is the first practical day of the course.
The on-snow tuition is based around Ski Kindergarten.
Topics covered are:
Meet and greet (specifically for kids)
Schussing
Breaking
Snowplough
Snowplough turning
All of these are accompanied by many drills and games, and followed by ‘competence test’.

Lectures
The first lecture is about equipment, types and designs of ski and bindings.
The second lecture is about weather, snow types and avalanche types/casues.

DAY 3
The main focus of the practical today is the same as the day before but aim at adults.
Techniques and drills up to linking turns in snowplough.

Adult based warm up excercises.
Shussing
Snow plough position (stepping, jumping and sliding into it whilst static)
Shussing with snowplough brake.
Snowploughing in a straight line.
Big and small snowploughs.
Snow plough with a sudden stop.
Snowplough turn.
Linking snowplough turns.

Lectures
First lecture on teaching and learning, group dynamics, pace etc.. etc..
The second lecture is the second section to children's courses.

DAY 4
Alpine basic position - Alpines Fahrvahalten.
Stand ready to move in all directions
Parrallel stance
All joints (ankles, knees, hips and shoulders) are parrallel.
Ankles, knees and hips are curved inwards.
Upper body and shoulders are facing down the mountain.
Traverse in a curve dictated by the ski radius. Then various drills based on this... lifting the uphill leg, sidestepping as you go, dragging the tip of the outside leg etc... Then moving on to side slipping in this position, then traverse and slide.
Practice linked snow plough turns for adults and a few 'teacher' drills ... jumping short turns with your ski tips always on the snow.

Lecture
Lecture about nature and the impact of skiing and climate change.

Day 5
The previous day participants used the Alpine basic position (Alpines Fahrvahalten) to traverse.
Day 5 participants are focussing on the carving grundstuffe (basic position) and from kurven to carving (from turning to carving). Participants extend the excercise from the day before by standing forward to transfer weight back to both skis, slide the uphill ski out to snowplough, transfer weight to the outside leg until you are with the fall line and then keep the weight here and slide the inside ski back to traverse in the Adult Alpine basic position (AFVH) . This maybe be known as Stem Christie turns but there was absolutely no stepping involved.
Participants are not told to mention the specific weight division of the skis (except for 50/50 when in snowplough to meet the fall line). The main focus is to keep that outside leg weighted as much as possible and to let the uphill ski drift in whilst still grounded.

Lectures
The second part of mountain awareness and avalanche risks and dangers.

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Day 6
Focus on kids drills for 'from turning to carving'. The focus with the kids is to get them skiing faster with shorter turns and teaching and then incorporating a hockey stop.
After drilling a hockey stop participants start with a tight dual slalom.... then with a shorter slalom with a mound of snow at the end to hockey stop parrallel with.... in this excercise there is a fire at the end so the participants carry a snowball down, short turn in the course and then hockey stopped at the end to sprinkle all of the snow over the wide fire. This created the Alpines Fahrvahalten quite naturally.

Day 7
Start of the 'real' teaching tests.
APFVH, snowplough the falline, weighten the lower ski, bring the inside leg in and repeat..
Practical teaching test -
The first test is for kids - to teach Schuss.
The second test is the APFVH with traversing. Then drilling on this by lifting skis, adding side steps etc... etc..
The next test is Carving Grundtuffe. Starting in snowplough and then moving to APFVH by bringing in the top unweighted ski.

Day 8
Practice the 3 practical elements (snowplough linked turns, carving grundstuffe and short radius turning).

Day 9
PRACTICAL TEST DAY

Day 10
PRACTICAL TECHNICAL TEST DAY
Do the 3 tests in a row, starting with snowplough turns, then carving grundstuffe, then short turns. The tests are marked by 3 instructors from 1 to 10 (1 being the best, 10 the worse and 4 the pass mark) and then an average taken for each of the three tests.

So, WHERE does that leave you.....
You got your Level 1 and you allowed to teach for the pre-elected ski school in Austria next season up to carving on piste.

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Son of a friend is about to get his ISTD qualification, my friend told me so far it costs his son close to £50,000 all these years for the course fees, travelling, accomodation etc.

ISTD qualification doesn't come cheaply.
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Australian Professional Snow Instructors (APSI)

Here is the Australian Professional Snow Instructors (APSI) Trainers & Examiners 2011 Manual - http://www.apsi.net.au/media/2366/al...dbook_2011.pdf

Exam expectation & procedures:
http://www.apsi.net.au/media/2381/te...pectations.pdf

Level 1 Training & Exam Guide:
http://www.apsi.net.au/media/2496/ap...exam_guide.pdf

Level 2 Training & Exam Guide:
http://www.apsi.net.au/media/2384/ap...exam_guide.pdf

Level 3 Training & Exam Guide:
http://www.apsi.net.au/media/2387/ap...exam_guide.pdf

Level 4 Training & Exam Guide:
http://www.apsi.net.au/media/2390/ap...exam_guide.pdf
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Quick International update from the board of IASI:

As you can see we have a training delegation in DAVOS at the ISIA safety workshop. This is fantastic for IASI and builds on the great work we are doing on the International scene.

As you will be aware the Eurotest (high level GS test) is a requirment for ski instructors to work in the French Alps as professionals. This will NOT change and it is important that members aiming for a career in France recognise this. IASI instructors will be able to access the Eurotest so gaining the same working rights as other European instructors in France. IASI is not focused on trying to change this situation.

The situation in other major Alpine nations is not always clear and we hope to offer clarity in this post. To work as a snowsports instructor in Austria, Italy, Switzerland and Germany you do NOT require your level 4 with Eurotest. In most cases a level 2 will be enough to gain employment within an organised ski school. Some nations and regions have different rules and you will need to check with the school you intend to work for.

You can also (with a valid ISIA stamp) work for short periods with your own groups in some regions / nations. Again you will need to apply to the region where you intend to work and make an application.

Setting up a snowsports school or working as an established independent instructor is a different matter and very complexed. Each nation will have its own laws to follow on this matter.

On the wider scene IASI are working in a positive direction with ISIA. Recently we had our qualification at the top level recognised to issue the ISIA card. We are already able to issue the ISIA stamp. We are now one of only 14 nations in ISIA (38 nations) and one of two English speaking nations (BASI are the other) who can issue this card.

In May IASI will be attending the ISIA conference in Poland where we will continue to support ISIA and build strong links with the organisation.

It is important that European issues (for independent instructors) and International issues are not confused leading to conflict. We will respect and align our training to European nations that require specific modules, we will continue to work with ISIA to gain further employment opportunities on the global front for our members.

Pete Gillespie
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Son of a friend is about to get his ISTD qualification, my friend told me so far it costs his son close to £50,000 all these years for the course fees, travelling, accomodation etc.

ISTD qualification doesn't come cheaply.
Just give you an idea how much does it cost to take the BASI -

To take BASI Level 1 & 2 will cost about £900 in course fees, plus travel, accommodation, lift-pass etc for at least 2 weeks in a ski resort (Note: BASI Level 1 can taken at a "snowdome" cost about £500)

If you want to work in Europe you will need to plan to continue though the BASI system up to Level 3 or 4. The cost of this is can be very high. But if you pass all your modules 1st time (there are LOTS of modules) and stay in the cheapest possible accommodation, you can bring this down significantly. But you should remember that it is an expensive thing to do and you will need to start out with the intention of going all the way.

At the moment, you can work in a few different areas without a BASI Level 4, but this is changing. So, by the time you finish you may find that you can only work in a very small number of areas without at least the ISIA stamp (L3). There will, obviously be many people seeking the same (unqualified) positions, so, due to supply and demand, the wages and conditions for these posts will most likely not be commensurate with the effort put in.
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Just to supplement the above. Moving from Level 2 to Level 3. For Level 3 you will need:
- Level 3 technical - 10 days
- Level 3 teach - 5 days
- Level 1 in something else - 5 days
- Mountain Safety - 6 days
- Common Theory - 5 days
- Coaching - 3 days (at the moment)
- 2nd language
- 200 teaching hours (in addition to the 70 hours ski school experience).

I think you will be lucky to get away with spending £1,000 a week on BASI courses by the time you've paid the fees; got there; stayed somewhere; bought a lift pass and eaten. So probably around £7k to get a Level 3.
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If so, BASI's certification is way too easy.
Please also refer to posting #8 on page 1 of this thread and for PSIA Level 3 refer to posting #15
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If so, BASI's certification is way too easy.


I think snowrider is just being sarcastic. No ?
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