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舊 2018-08-18, 21:30   #1
Peony
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club med, Arcs extreme, Serre-Chevalier or other suggestions

I want to join club med ski resorts in 2019, Which one is great for intermediate skiers, Arcs extreme, the resorts looks modern and comfortable but I have no idea about ski tracks. Serre-Chevalier resorts seems to be a bit old, however ski in forest is a great attraction. Please give comment or any other suggestions
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舊 2018-08-19, 08:58   #2
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ClubMed in Europe (France, Italy..) are very similar in operation. You may want to consider what you want to get.....
- Ski-in ski-out? This is important for me. Some of their resort need to take shuttle to lifts. Cervinia is one of the ClubMed resort requiring shuttle bus to go out for skiing. I tired one and it was a waste of treasure skiing time and a lot of hassle.
- Food or other amenities? Normally 4 trident hotels have better food or better amenities but cost more.
- Snow sure even for late session skiing? Check the relevant resort.

I have been to ClubMed Arc Extreme, Cervinia, Tignes. They are generally all good.

Arc Extreme
It is in the Les Arc area suitable for skiing even in April. A three Trident hotel. Very good value for money (quite cheap actually). Food generally is OK for me. It is almost ski-in ski-out. You can ski down a short slope to a T-Bar for going to the main ski area. For going back to the hotel, if you are advanced skier, you can basically ski in a small off piste bumpy path. If you are below advanced skier, you need to walk a very short while (20s~40 sicks ) up-slope. The A lot of intermediate slope for family. You can ski down from top 3450m down to bottom 100m in one go via a short back run and other intermediate slopes. For an intermediate skier skiing at reasonable speed, you may finish it in approx 30~40mins skiing time non stop.

ClubMed Tignes
A four Trident hotel but the food was just so so during our visit. More expensive than the Les Arc one. A Ski in Ski out hotel. If you ski at reasonable speed and can cover distance, you can have lunch at the Val D'Isere at the other side of the ski resort and go to the peak at the other side. Nice mountain views. Very good off piste bump and powder (not the deep deep light power of the Japan type). I like the slopes and off piste skiing their a lot. We got quite reasonable snow and reasonable powder even in late March.

ClubMed Cervinia
A four trident hotel. Not ski out and need to take a shuttle bus. Seems to be not a big deal but when part of the lifts are not operating and you can think of the congestion.....We were of bad luck during our visit in mid March. Still snowing a lot during that time. Too much and too windy causing the resort frequently partially closed. We had one day full resort suspension (except only one baby slop in operation).Very very good scenery there. You can go to the swiss side (Zermett) and to the Matterhorn viewing gallery /glacier if you ski at reasonable speed. Food of there was quite good.

We are planning to go ClubMed Three Vallee (CLubMed Val THorens) in next season but the price is a lot higher than that for the CLubMed Arc Extreme.

(Note: In Europe, you are not allowed skiing off piste unless you are accompanied by an authorised off piste guide. CLubMed is good that as instructor (off piste guide) is included)
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舊 2018-08-19, 11:38   #3
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Very informative! Thx a lots!

We usually ski in Japan and this is our first move to ski in Europe. We choose club med cos we really want to take ski course to improve our ski technique (especially the pumpy/moguls path). My friends told me lots of improvement gain and was fun with instructor guiding. Also, I am fascinating in long ski course from mountain top to the bottom.

Ski-in ski-out also important to us cos no wastage of time and energy. How about the snow in Les Arc area, powder? Icey?

Les 3 Vallee sounds attractive, the biggest ski area, but the price is high!
Wish you a fascinating ski trip
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舊 2018-08-19, 19:00   #4
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Skiing in Japan is very different from skiing in Europe. In comparing with Skiing in Japan, Europe skiing:
- has better scenery. Imaginary at 3000+m viewing the alps
- in general much longer slope and much bigger area. If you are not familiar with the resort, better to get a guide (or an instructor as in the case of ClubMed). Otherwise, you will at a lost easily. In general, you could not follow the chair lifts that you see in the slope as they covers a big area. Also, in general, the chair lifts are faster.
- in general, the slopes are more difficult in comparison. Sometimes, moguls are inevitable.

Les Arc (ClubMed Arc Extreme ) is good for family. The shops and restaurant there are in general less expensive. Last time we went there in March. Shops were doing big sales and our friends got good prices in buying goggles, gloves...etc. The prices for skis and ski boot there were also good.

Not much luck in snow in our last visit.Only some snow shower during our one week stay. In general, hard snow in the morning and slurry in the afternoon though the instructor will bring you to the best slope if possible. However, snow conditions depends very much on weather and no one can tell for sure.

All in all, I think Les Arc is a good place to start with.
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