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舊 2012-02-12, 02:39   #16
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For alpine touring, I recommend to take some lesson or try it on an easy run first. If you know how to cross-country skiing, it will help. The avalanche course in Canada, they expect you know how to use touring skis already.

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舊 2012-02-12, 08:59   #17
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Touring equipment seems to be a requirement for almost all the avalanche courses I've been able to find so far...
If you are serious and want to take up Alpine Touring, you should buy your own equipment, incl. AT boots, randonnée skis with AT bindings, skins and crampons. Plus all the safety equipment incl. transceiver, shovel, probe, avalanche airbag.
As I said, a whole new set up.
Note that the sole of the AT boots ( http://www.hkssa.net/showthread.php?t=34146 ) and the AT bindings are quite different from Alpine ski boots and ski bindings.
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舊 2012-02-12, 13:24   #18
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Thank you both for the advice.
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舊 2012-02-12, 20:31   #19
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Full AT setup will set you back several $k. For side country, all you need is binding, skins, beacon, shovel and probe. You can get all for under $1000 assuming you have the right skis. Check out maker duke binding, it can be used with alpine boots. The downhill performance is hard to beat. I got a binding plate designed by my friend so I can switch between dynafit and duke within 20 minutes or less. Some of my friends who tour year round use duke. There are several other new binding available next year because this is a growth market.

From what I see, rental equipment usually is not good. You can rent them for av course. Av course usually is 3 days and cost as little as $200. This is in US
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舊 2012-02-12, 21:15   #20
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Full AT setup will set you back several $k. For side country, all you need is binding, skins, beacon, shovel and probe. You can get all for under $1000 assuming you have the right skis. Check out maker duke binding, it can be used with alpine boots. The downhill performance is hard to beat. I got a binding plate designed by my friend so I can switch between dynafit and duke within 20 minutes or less. Some of my friends who tour year round use duke. There are several other new binding available next year because this is a growth market.
Just a matter of interest - do you mean switching Dynafit to Marker Duke on the mountain or before you set off in the morning?

I know the advantage of the Dynafit is it's weight. For the Duke, it is a step-in binding designed for "big mountain" riders. Some of my friends use the Fritschi. What is your view?
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舊 2012-02-21, 18:11   #21
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Hi KYL,

We definitely need more big mountain skiers from HK. Get your avy gear and go ride !! Once you go off piste, you will never go back to the groomers.

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舊 2012-02-21, 19:57   #22
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Yay someone is interested in skiing pow/off piste.

Hard to find someone from HK skiing fat skis / pow

we are a rare breed :D
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舊 2012-02-22, 20:08   #23
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Yay someone is interested in skiing pow/off piste.

Hard to find someone from HK skiing fat skis / pow

we are a rare breed :D
Below is a video showing some real powder snow skiing, look at those skis, how narrow they are! It shows fat skis is not a must for skiing powder.

http://www.hkssa.net/showthread.php?t=21519

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舊 2012-02-22, 20:40   #24
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Below is a video showing some real powder snow skiing, look at those skis, how narrow they are! It shows fat skis is not a must for skiing powder.

http://www.hkssa.net/showthread.php?t=21519

Fat ski is not a must, it just help. Most of the time, I ski with my 160cm skinny skis in Niseko, although I have a 180cm fat skis. If the powder is only knee deep, I can easily deal with my normal skis, if the powder is above my waist or if it is too heavy, better change back to my fat skis. I don't like to skis with my fat ski because it gives too much unwant bouyancy, if I ski powder, I want to sink more into the snow just like the video above. It gives me an illusion that I am swimming in the snow, snow which coming into my clothes, into my nostiles, into my mouth that feel like drowning me. If I ski in Heavy powder in Whistler, I definitely want to ski on my fat ski. I have to admit, I am not that good.
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舊 2012-02-22, 20:50   #25
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Fat ski is not a must, it just help. Most of the time, I ski with my 160cm skinny skis in Niseko, although I have a 180cm fat skis. If the powder is only knee deep, I can easily deal with my normal skis, if the powder is above my waist or if it is too heavy, better change back to my fat skis. I don't like to skis with my fat ski because it gives too much unwant bouyancy, if I ski powder, I want to sink more into the snow just like the video above. It gives me an illusion that I am swimming in the snow, snow which coming into my clothes, into my nostiles, into my mouth that feel like drowning me. If I ski in Heavy powder in Whistler, I definitely want to ski on my fat ski. I have to admit, I am not that good.
It also depends on how heavy (or light) you are. It helps if you are heavy, not much help if you are light.
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舊 2012-02-24, 03:11   #26
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Check this video out:

http://vimeo.com/35559070

And if you ever going to visit Whistler, there is a FREE avalanche awareness tours. The tours meet every day at 12:30pm outside the Avalanche Awareness Center at the top of Solar Coaster.
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舊 2012-02-24, 15:44   #27
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Thanks you all for your input.

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And if you ever going to visit Whistler, there is a FREE avalanche awareness tours. The tours meet every day at 12:30pm outside the Avalanche Awareness Center at the top of Solar Coaster.
Wow, thats great! Not only free but everyday too! Would you happen to have more details or contact info rgd these tours?
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舊 2012-02-25, 02:42   #28
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I never took that avalanche awareness tour myself. I know someone who took it recently though. It is basically a 2 hour course and teach you basic knowledge on backcountry and avalanche. They worked on transceiver and practice rescue. He also visited the mission control center there and learn how they do the avalanche control (with bomb).

He was the only one showed up in the tour that day and he said he spent 3 hours with the workers and learnt a lot.

Found more info from their website (bottom of the page): http://www.whistler.com/mountain_safety/

Few weeks ago, we were at Revelstoke and saw few groups of people also taking the avalanche course there. I think you have to pay for the course there, but not sure how much.
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舊 2012-02-28, 23:54   #29
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Thank you 4 the info!
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舊 2012-03-29, 07:06   #30
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Hello all.
I'm an intermediate skier looking to learn a bit about skiing off piste. What would be a good way to start? Should I take an avalanche awareness course? Or backcountry ski course? Or something else? Any recommendations for particular areas/outfits that offers a good learning environment or a good value?.
"Snoworks" operating in Tignes/Val d'isere and Trois Vallees offers off-piste skiing courses and have received very good feedback.
http://www.snoworks.co.uk/iSKI-Off-Piste.html
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