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舊 2015-12-13, 23:43   #1
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想 Upgrade Ski Boot, 有問題請教

而家用緊 Head Edge 9+ ski boot , flex 80, for beginner and intermediate. 之前在日本買, 無特別 boot fitting, 但試左幾粒鐘先買左尼對, 買時加左對比較硬身 for 扁平足的 insole.

用左四年, 無乜大問題, 對我尼 d 年紀不細,每年只滑 十多天的休閒滑雪人仕, 對 boot 無須太硬, 最緊要舒服. 但尼對 boot 間唔中都夾得我左腳腳踭位同腳眼中之間幾痛, 有時又頂到左腳 foot arch 上面粒骨幾痛, 但有時滑幾日都無事, 但痛既時候都幾幸苦, 所以想在尼緊尼個 Niseko SKi trip 換對由 Boot fitter 主理過的 Ski Boot.

我對腳都好多問題, 有 d 扁平足, 足醫話我對腳向外鈄, foot arch 部分好易疲倦, 平時運動蛙都要落訂制 insole. 所以想boot fitter 攪對 boot, 但有以下問題請教:

1. 如果換左新 Ski Boot, 我現用的 Ski 的 binding 是否須要再 調較或更改?
2. 對我尼 d 多問題腳, custom lining 是否好 d? 要求舒服, performance 其次.
3. 在二世古, 有乜 boot fitter /ski boot shop 推介?
4. 我的 skill 大約 intermediate/advance intermediate. Budget 約多少?


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舊 2015-12-14, 06:25   #2
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我對腳都好多問題, 有 d 扁平足, 足醫話我對腳向外鈄, foot arch 部分好易疲倦, 平時運動蛙都要落訂制 insole. 所以想boot fitter 攪對 boot, 但有以下問題請教:

1. 如果換左新 Ski Boot, 我現用的 Ski 的 binding 是否須要再 調較或更改?
2. 對我尼 d 多問題腳, custom lining 是否好 d? 要求舒服, performance 其次.
1/. That depends on the size (sole length) of your new pair of ski boots, ski bindings normally have enough travel to allow for adjustment up to 1 size up or down. If your bindings are on rail, then you can simply slide the heel and toe piece up and down easily and will accommodate different sizes of ski boots.

2/. A heat moulded lining and foot bed should help
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舊 2015-12-14, 21:30   #3
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SKi: should be able to slide the binding to adjust change of boots.

Boot fitting with a custom foot bed will sure your soles of your feet are in neutral position so you can ski more comfortable.

Boot solution in Hirafu does a good job, my last pair was done there.

budget should be around 60,000-70,000 yen?

being in Hirafu its a little more.

If you can make the effort of going to Kutchan can go to Takeguchi sports.

perhaps a little cheaper there.
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舊 2015-12-15, 15:19   #4
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如果去御茶水會否多D選擇, 價錢方面是否會差不多呢
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舊 2015-12-16, 18:26   #5
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Being the famous Kanda area, there will sure be more choices.

also have tax free as well so it is cheaper.

or see it as discounted boot fitting.
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舊 2015-12-16, 23:43   #6
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Thanks Mike and will for the information.

For my problematic foot, I think I may need to stretch my budget a bid for a Moldable custom liner and a custom footbed.

My existing boot was bought in 御茶水. Very inexpensive. Less than HKD1500 for the pair.御茶水 should have more choices but it seems that boot fitting was less common there and may need to take a whole day or more to get this done.

Since I am going to Niseko for skiing, will probable get the new boots there. May consider Boot Solution. Have just visited their website and get more information for boot fitting and liner now. Getting it in Niseko may be a bit more expensive but it is most convenient to me in my case.

By the way, which moldable Custom liner you would recommend? Intuition, Zipfit or Sidas foam injection?
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舊 2015-12-22, 02:22   #7
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For liner, it really depends on the shell you have.

Some inner fits better with particular brand.
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For liner, it really depends on the shell you have.

Some inner fits better with particular brand.
Thanks Will.

I think it is better to let the boot fitter to check and advise.
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舊 2015-12-31, 14:38   #9
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Don't let the price dictates what you buy, the most expensive is not necessarily the best for your feet.

A friend of mine recently upgraded his pair of ski boots, he bought a pair of Atomic Redster Pro Series 120 boots with custom foot beds as recommended by the salesman in the shop. It turned into complete disaster - his feet were hurting so much with unbearable quad burn and an Achilles tendon that felt like it would tear off. The problem is due to the mis-match between his feet and the boot.

So, tell the boot fitter how you ski, what you expect, see what the shop carries, choose a model which suits your feet (shape of the box, lean, flex etc.) and ask the boot fitter to perform a shell check for correct sizing. Any pressure points can easily be punched out if necessary.
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Don't let the price dictates what you buy, the most expensive is not necessarily the best for your feet.

A friend of mine recently upgraded his pair of ski boots, he bought a pair of Atomic Redster Pro Series 120 boots with custom foot beds as recommended by the salesman in the shop. It turned into complete disaster - his feet were hurting so much with unbearable quad burn and an Achilles tendon that felt like it would tear off. The problem is due to the mis-match between his feet and the boot.

So, tell the boot fitter how you ski, what you expect, see what the shop carries, choose a model which suits your feet (shape of the box, lean, flex etc.) and ask the boot fitter to perform a shell check for correct sizing. Any pressure points can easily be punched out if necessary.
Which shop? in Hong Kong??
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舊 2016-01-02, 03:41   #11
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Which shop? in Hong Kong??
Not in HK.
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舊 2016-01-16, 00:01   #12
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剛在 二世古 Hirafu Boot Solution 買左對, 價錢應比日本一般 ski shop 貴,但方便.

約 evening fit boot : Check 腳, shell fitting, recommend 2~3 model, 試穿, 再造 custom footbed, 再試, 攪左兩粒幾鐘, 我隻怪腳, 扁平足加左腳背凸骨, 左腳arch 骨凸骨, 闊及厚腳板, 腳跟又緊,試來試去得兩隻 model fit d:

- Head Adapt Edge 125, 覺得比較硬及頂腳背, 唔太 like.
- Dalbello Avanti 110, 好 fit 但頂腳指尾及前腳掌迫迫地

選左 Dalbello Avanti 110, 夜晚幫我改 boot: 拉闊少少鞋頭腳掌位, 拉開少少腳指尾位.

第二朝一早再去試, heat mold 埋 liner, 又攪左粒幾鐘.

頭尾攪左 3 粒幾4粒鐘,但全無影響 ski 時間, 改 boot 晚間進行, 非常方便.

滑左 4 日, break in 了 liner, 左怪腳好 fit, 反而右腳前腳掌位覺少少唔夠緊但又少少頂腳指尾, CNY 會再去二世古, 到時攞去攪攪隻右 boot. So far 覺得好滿意.

尾間 shop 白馬有分店, Fitting and re-work guarantee 2 seasons, 明年去二世古 or 白馬, 如有問題可再攪, 幾方便.
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剛在 二世古 Hirafu Boot Solution 買左對, 價錢應比日本一般 ski shop 貴,但方便.

約 evening fit boot : Check 腳, shell fitting, recommend 2~3 model, 試穿, 再造 custom footbed, 再試, 攪左兩粒幾鐘, 我隻怪腳, 扁平足加左腳背凸骨, 左腳arch 骨凸骨, 闊及厚腳板, 腳跟又緊,試來試去得兩隻 model fit d:

- Head Adapt Edge 125, 覺得比較硬及頂腳背, 唔太 like.
- Dalbello Avanti 110, 好 fit 但頂腳指尾及前腳掌迫迫地

選左 Dalbello Avanti 110, 夜晚幫我改 boot: 拉闊少少鞋頭腳掌位, 拉開少少腳指尾位.

第二朝一早再去試, heat mold 埋 liner, 又攪左粒幾鐘.

滑左 4 日, break in 了 liner, 左怪腳好 fit, 反而右腳前腳掌位覺少少唔夠緊但又少少頂腳指尾, CNY 會再去二世古, 到時攞去攪攪隻右 boot. So far 覺得好滿意.

尾間 shop 白馬有分店, Fitting and re-work guarantee 2 seasons, 明年去二世古 or 白馬, 如有問題可再攪, 幾方便.



How much you paid?
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舊 2016-01-16, 11:58   #14
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http://www.bootsolutionsjapan.com/ski-boot-fitting/

Click on the different fits and you will find the prices
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舊 2016-01-16, 20:31   #15
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How much you paid?
Sidas custom footbed 約 15000 yen

Dalbello Avanti 110 約 70000 yen. 比美國 d online shop 貴大約30%,但方便又不影響ski 時間+兩年 保証+Service, 比貴d 是應該的。
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